Flueckiger tells jury Meyer White had no association with guns
BLUFFTON â€“ Lee Flueckiger told Wells County Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Andrew Carnell on during his testimony Thursday afternoon at the murder trial of Tyler White at the Wells County Courthouse that Amy Myer White never wanted a gun, shot a gun or touched a gun.
Flueckiger also told jurors that during an exchange of Meyer White's son, Max, with White in late summer, that the accused pointed his finger at him (Flueckiger) like he was shooting a gun at him.
According to Flueckiger, he had known Meyer White for 10 years. They had dated for a few months in 2003-2004. Then, in July of 2008, she and her son, Max, had moved in with him, following a bitter separation between Meyer White and Tyler White.
"It was late summer or early fall of 2009. We were dropping Max off at Trent and Stephanie White's," said Flueckiger. "He (Tyler White) pointed his finger at me like he was shooting a gun."
Flueckiger told Carnell that after Meyer White separated from her estranged husband, Tyler White, the accused consistently used degrading name calling against Meyer White.
"It happened a lot," said Flueckiger. "A lot of it happened through voice mail. She received calls about exchanges with Max and I could hear his voice."
Flueckiger said that Meyer White played at least 10 calls that she had received concerning exchanges about Max.
"They argued about Max a lot," said Flueckiger. "He made very degrading comments to her."
Various witnesses at the trial on Thursday testified that Meyer White had told them that she was recording White's derogatory calls to her so that she could use them in a possible anticipated custody battle over Max in the upcoming future.
Flueckiger said that White was aware that his calls were being recorded by Meyer White.
"In one call after he had said something verbally abusive to her, he said, 'there, record that,'" said Flueckiger, of White.
Flueckiger also testified that he had received a call from White that stated, "this is your last warning, never again are you allowed on this property (referring to the exchanges of Max)."
Flueckiger said that the last time he saw Meyer White was the morning, Oct. 27, 2009, when she left to take his step grandson to school and picked up Max at the residence of White's parents at 0649 East 100 South in Wells County. She was driving the car she normally drove; Flueckiger's maroon Buick Enclave.
One of the major items of concern throughout the trial has been a black gun case that was found in the back seat of Flueckiger's car following the events of Oct. 27 of that year. Following investigation, Flueckiger's car was impounded in a wreckage yard in Bluffton. Flueckiger had asked a close friend, Cary Herman, to go pick the car up for him.
When Herman returned the car to Flueckiger's residence, he noted a "black box" in the back seat behind the driver's side that concerned him. He immediately called Flueckiger, who was gone, to report the finding.
"He opened the driver's side back door and the black box was there," said Flueckiger. "I told him to call the detective to report it."
Flueckiger rushed home to greet the detective. There he saw the black box on the floor behind the driver's seat. He testified that neither he nor Herman touched the box. He further stated that he had never seen the box in his residence, had never seen the box anywhere and had never seen Meyer White with the box.
Earlier in the trial, the defense had indicated that the presence of the gun box in Meyer White's car, plus the presence of the second gun, was supportive of White's testimony that Meyer White was pointing a gun at him.
"Our position is that the defendant planted the gun," Wells County Prosecutor Michael Lautzenheiser had said.
Also on Thursday, Meyer White's father, Mike Meyer, became briefly emotional when he described the names that White had called his daughter.
"Amy told me that he talked that way to her in person sometimes," said Meyer. "I saw some of it in text messages."
Meyer said that his daughter had asked him to ride with her for Max exchanges because she was concerned about the entire situation.
When asked about Meyer White's potential ownership of a gun, Meyer replied, "I do not own a gun and I have never known Amy to own one. She never shot a gun, never talked about having access to a hand gun and never showed any interest in a gun."
Defense attorney James Voyles, of Indianapolis, has constantly alleged that Meyer White came to the White residence on the morning of the murder armed with a hand gun which she pointed at White. Voyles acknowledges that White shot his estranged wife, but that it was done so in self-defense.
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